Not exactly the nicest thing to say about a yet-t0-be-released Gunpla but those are my exact words right now. I am officially canceling my pre-order for this thing. What is my issue with it? It is exactly what you see above. The wing binders(?) cannot rotate! How are you supposed to make dashing/striking poses if those can’t move?! Well, I supposed you sorta can… but it obviously wouldn’t look as dramatic/dynamic.
So I can’t pose the PG 00 Raiser like its HG 1/144 counterpart. Wow. From what I see, this model is basically a stationary suit (as opposed to MOBILE suit har har). This isn’t the only thing that ticked me off… the proportions of the PG model also seems a bit odd. The lower half of the body seems wayyy more muscular than the top… and the huge exposed rectangular waist makes it even more apparent… Take a look to see what I mean:
Ehhh… not gonna spend ~$300 on something that even a professionally completed model can’t impress me. As for the MG Victory…
Hope you don’t mind if I bash on this model yet again. Honestly, I was hoping some more preview images and mag scans might lighten up my view on this model but that’s not the case. There’s plain… and then there’s damn vanilla plain. It doesn’t even look good standing there (no GFF stance). Okay, designs aside (let’s ignore how boring it looks)… let’s just talk about the way it stands. First off, for comparison’s sake…
The GP03S Stamen. Also designed by Katoki. Also has that simple “bored” look to it BUT it does a great job just standing there (my opinion). Like it looks strong just standing there. The V… not so much. Doesn’t look very confident… kinda wimpy. Maybe the person didn’t do a good job at posing the model (benefit of the doubt) but as I observe it a little longer… I noticed something… V’s feet aren’t exactly flat on the table as if there aren’t enough ankle movement to allow it to be completely on the ground. I noticed this with the first announcement photos as well during that whachamacallit show. So not only is the MG V yawn-inducing but also can’t do a proper “GFF stance”… unlike ALL the other MGUC models o_O. No… I wouldn’t judge it that far. Not yet anyway.
*If you are slightly confused by “GFF Stance”, then just look at any Gundam Fix Figurations and the way they just simply stand there… that stance. It’s so simple yet evokes a sense of coolness and… whatever positive thing I can’t think of to describe it at the moment.
I apologize for making a bashful post especially after a long absence but I don’t think my points are entirely invalid here as well ^^;. Honestly, I would like to be proved wrong (who wouldn’t want Gunplas to be awesome instead?) I think being stressed out affects one’s mood and perspective to a certain degree also methinks…
I’ll probably finally have a chance to work on Turn A’s photoshoot tomorrow…
Oh yea, I jacked most of the photos from Ngee Khiong, who is nice enough to put in the time to collect them from various sites and host it all conveniently at his blog ^^.
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October 29, 2009 at 2:15 AM
LOL everyone is complaining about PG 00 Raiser. I saw those red marks in the photo in Ngee Khiong but i didn’t know what it means. So that means PG 00 Raiser is just for standing there and do nothing. Bandai, you made the biggest mistake in a PG kit…
October 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM
The “underwear” of 00 raiser is indeed too “low cut”… XD XD XD
October 29, 2009 at 2:43 AM
So this is like:
HG 1/144 > HG 1/100 > PG?
Fail.
October 29, 2009 at 2:46 AM
there aren’t any pose shoot on this PG anyway…
so i doubt it can posing like strike or astray ^^;
as for V, the hands, the finger can’t move????
October 29, 2009 at 2:50 AM
Was never impressed by PG 00 Raiser from the start. ‘Nuff said.
Though I might give V another chance when it’s completed by someone else before I go against it.
And I figured you are set on buying MG Astray Blue Frame?
October 29, 2009 at 3:40 AM
Wow alot of complaints on PG 00, lacking inner frame details, poseability issues, proportional issues, and what’s with that really obvious rectangular waist?? And look at those shoulder armour, they’re TINY o.o xD Good thing I decided on PG red frame instead of PG 00 as my first perfect grade then.
Oh and I can’t wait for your Turn-A review! :)
October 29, 2009 at 4:08 AM
Epic Phail for a PG! Will probably get my first PG kit but I’m not sure which one.. I would prefer a UC series PG though. I wouldn’t mind getting the Zeta or the GP01Fb which is impressive. They provide parts for vernian and not vernian plus you’ve got a construction yard.. Not sure which one to buy though.. PG kits are selling around RM650+ and if I take a part-time job my salary would only be at most RM1k per month (Which is not much considering the amount of work). Which is why it kinda sucks living here. *ahem*
Will definitely wait for the MG 00-Raiser, which I hope it won’t be as disappointing as the MG Exia or its PG counterpart. No offense. Dang! Got exam finals starting next week. Chemical engineering! XD Wish me luck!
October 29, 2009 at 4:30 AM
Looks like Bandai’s effort to suck our money this holiday season will fail, unless changes made to the PG 00 Raiser, but I doubt that will work, since now I know that HG 1/100 is better that the PG counterpart and HG 1/144 beats all of them
October 29, 2009 at 5:30 AM
GP03S FTW! i rellly love the simplicity of the stamen!
October 29, 2009 at 6:44 AM
I still plan on geting PG OO riser i dont now why people complain all the time about stupid stuff who cares if the The wing binders wont rotate the proportions look fine to me who care about inner frames i dont display them with there inner frames showing. its kindy like Win Vista ever one say it sucks it the worse windows microsoft has made. i have been runing Windows Vista for 1 in hafe years or so and have had no problem with it. so i dont now what the complated is now Win 7 out get a few week and they say it sucks
any way later
October 29, 2009 at 6:56 AM
The PG 00 makes my PG Wing looks slim… As for the V, it looks kind of boring, for a Gundam. Bandai should made the MG V2 Assault Buster; NOW that’s good. @_@
October 29, 2009 at 7:07 AM
@Dred
PGs are supposed to have waaaay better stuff/articulation/etc etc compared to HGs, MGs, and NGs.
This is quite the opposite.
October 29, 2009 at 7:30 AM
vanilla plain. you said it. i havent warmed up to this thing at all yet.
and good call with the ‘gff pose’ i know EXACTLY what you’re talking about. v gundam doesnt have it. the only one that doesnt have it.
October 29, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Mixed feelings.
Though I agree that PG should have superior proportions/articulation to go with the price, I still find the added details juicy. I don’t doubt that the more professional modelers will find ways to mod this limitation. Somewhat ironically to this post, it actually looks great with GFF stance. But this being PG… and a dynamic Gundam like 00… yeah, I can see how this can annoy a lot of ppl.
On the other hand, the ‘rectangular waist’ is shockng. I never noticed it, but now I can’t take my eyes off it.
>bd77 “Bandai should made the MG V2 Assault Buster”
Agreed! Now THAT would make an awesome MG package.
October 29, 2009 at 8:07 AM
The moment i hear of PG 00 i don’t even bother to preorder.
Why? the prob lies with the 00 design itself… 0 raiser wing binders on GN drives shoulders supported by…a joint each.
That is akin to uh…Blue Frame’s huge ass buster sword. Just a glance and you know its virtually impossible to support (at least MG blue frame admit that and included the sword stand).
My 1/100 00 Raiser shoulders have started to slouch.
October 29, 2009 at 8:35 AM
I totally agree the legs on the PG 00 are like huge like steroids boost compared to the top half and the 00 is a dynamic gundam so why make it so it just stands there? it should have been a MG in my opinion. As for the MG V yeah i waas thinking why the hell would they make the MG of the most boring version of the V gundam? Why no the assualt Buster or something. I also noticed that it doesn’t seem to be able to stand haha and the beam effect parts look way too clear pink like they are knockoff or something.
October 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM
From the begining I didn’t like the look of the PG 00 Raiser. It have strange proportions and it would be better if Bandai would release a MG ver. then this crap. I hope that the will do that in the future…
October 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I dont care to much about articulation and all that i just like building them. then display them in one pose or so.
any way there no point in arguing i have my opion ever one else has there own
October 29, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Yeah screw PG 00 Raiser >:E
When I saw the Artwork/Sketches of PG 00 Gundam, I was like.. cool awesome details and stuffs… then Saw the surfacered kit covered with black cloth – seems alright,
BUT after saw whole kits complete with colored.. It didnt impressed me.. dunno why.. when more pics revealed.. more WTF moments I had..
Nothing to add anymore than what Z already said.. the Binder limited movement was epic fail.. how the hell u gonna pose the Trans-am super duper uber pose that ngee khiong showed? lol..
I guess gonna wait for MG 00 Raiser then… not going to have my first PG for a long time lol..
About the MG V Gundam.. I admit its look boring and stuffs.. Heck! Im getting it anyways.. lol Victory Gundam anime is my first Gundam anime XD, Im also sure gonna get V2 when it released too XD
October 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM
A few people are complaining about its posability. It still has PG level articulation. So what it the GN drives dont rotate at that joint? It only stops u from doing the trans-am raiser pose.
PG wing zero cant point its wings backwards or forwards and nobody complains.
I think bandai spoiled ye with the HG 00.
Wait until the kit is released and properly reviewed before saying how lacking it is.
Pictures of a display piece wont tell the full story.
October 29, 2009 at 1:58 PM
I have never liked the PG 00, I think it’s just way to soon for another PG, and the proportions are not that great, plus I think Bandai put in too many gimmicks on him(spinning gn drives?). As for the Victory, I think it’s a preference thing, cause I honestly love the design, plus, the ones that we have seen aren’t panel-lined, and I have yet to see it with the Ver. Ka decals and stickers…
October 29, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Kinda not into Gundam as much now but…I’ve heard alot about the PG 00 and it has a few problems…waist too big, shoulders too small, etc etc…its like Bandai killed the proportions of the model. But I’m kinda drawn to the GN Drive gimmic and how it looks…despite some problems, it still looks pretty damn good in my eyes…just envokes that coolness….
And I’m not a total articulation freak…I kinda hoped the wings wouldn’t fly all over the place and looks like its true. I mean I’m the type of person who likes NG 1/144 scale models if given a good paint job. Not to say I don’t like MG models and PG models too but wings and arms flying everywhere and sagging down kinda gets to me…
And as everyone else said, Bandai released this model too soon…if they waited longer they could’ve improved it instead of rushing it into production. =/
October 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM
My thoughts exactly Z. Good thing I was never into any of 00 Gundam’s Gunpla releases. V Gundam, well… plain as it is, I’m glad its finally here so I can finally look forward to a MG V2 Assault.
October 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM
V Gundam being too plain? If you ask the old schoolers some prefer it this way rather than being too mechanical. It is a matter of taste I suppose.
As for 00 Raiser, I’d say HG all the way! (laughs)
Oh btw, I’ve heard a rumour that Gundam SEED the Movie will be out in December 2010. Not sure how valid it is, but it’s reported on a Taiwanese ACG News site:
http://gnn.gamer.com.tw/8/40238.html
October 29, 2009 at 10:26 PM
OO epic phail >.<
October 30, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Guess I have to wait for the MG 00 Raiser then! I mean, who would want one that couldn’t pull of epic poses like in the anime.
I’m not sure if the proportions are correct or if there is, like everyone says, something wrong with them. However, the PG 00 has always looked a little strange to me… Maybe it’s the proportions.
As for V Gundam. I thought I wanted when it first debuted. However, after seeing more photos, yeah, it does look plain. Doesn’t even have any neat gimmicks. 3 Fighters… yeah, not so neat. Leg Fighter? wtf.
Let’s get some more 00 MGs!
October 30, 2009 at 1:19 AM
im jst gonna wait a few months to c if bandai will make a MG V2 assualt gundam. (needs patience) =]
October 30, 2009 at 2:11 AM
My oh my…two of the most anticipated end of the year gunplas are set for epic failure. I wonder what happen to all the polls Bandai made to identify which mobile suits making the cut to the production line. I think we could all use more MGs than PGs, Nu Gundam is in dire need of a facelift, Tallgeese is long over due, maybe a surprise Rezel from Gundam UC, even Astray Red Frame should be upgraded to an MG (using some of the Blue Frame’s mold). Bandai should know by now that us fans are growing tired of them releasing repaints of the same mold over and over again, it’s a high time for them to rethink their milking strategies. Anyone out there that is sharing my sentiments:)?
October 30, 2009 at 7:13 AM
you cancelled your preorder because of that?? oh well, it’s still a very fatal flaw for someone who likes to pose the Gundam around. But even if you don’t, those flaws are still unforgivable because it’s supposed to be a PERFECT grade. I’m not buying it since it’s really too expensive (1/3+++ of my monthy future salary) but the unrotatable wing binders are not an issue for me. But if i were to buy another PG, Red Frame Astray will still be my priority before it comes to this 00 Raiser.
October 30, 2009 at 7:18 AM
Mobiru Suito>
I don’t think Bandai will quit their ways of reusing molds with different colors, which is exactly why we should expect an MG Red Frame not too long.
We’ll probably get lots more of 00 and UC kits next year because of the 00 movie and UC anime OVA, so yeah, Rezel will probably get a release (hopefully HG/MG). I personally would prefer Delta Plus than Rezel though.
October 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Eyeshield, from what I remember… I think the MG V has swappable hands.
Chris, maybe… just maybe… I need to look past my previous experience with the 1/100 ver. first xD
Alex T, definitely get the GP01. The Zeta is before the 2.0 and I heard it’s not quite as stable… not to mention the lack of a Hyper Mega Launcher. GP01 has all the works!
Dredhawk, remember… this is a perfect grade ^^; One rightfully expect this to be better than its previous lesser counterparts…especially for $200+. It also comes with an action base so I’d be hardpressed if I can’t even pose it taking off properly >_>
ZR0, it’s not just the Trans-Am Raiser pose (I could hardly care about that one actually). It’s any sort of “charging” aerial pose that’s prevented (hg 1/144 00 photo above). I don’t know anything about the PG WZC so I can’t comment on that ^^;. and don’t you think it’s a bit odd that not even a $200+ PERFECT GRADE can overcome a $15 HG 1/144? o_0
Q, thanks for the news… though I couldn’t really understand much of it ^^;. Nice to know at least this SEED thing is still somewhat going on (if true)..
Mike, not just the wing binders. The proportions as well. Even if I don’t take into account, I don’t find the PG to look strikingly better than its other counterparts… heck, it almost looks like the others from far away.
I’ll accept MG V’s existence if it leads to a MG V2AB as well :D
October 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM
“PG wing zero cant point its wings backwards or forwards and nobody complains.”
I do. That kit is KILLED by not having a stand, you can’t replicate many of the signature poses for WZC without it. The wings in general kind of fall flat to be honest, they’re a real bitch to pose and it’s usually easier to pose the model with the front wings off, then put them back on. Sure, it looks pretty nice, but the fact is it’s mostly stuck in the GFF stance while Red Frame poses like crazy next to it.
October 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM
so yeah, no trans am riser sword pose or forward movement pose, since technicaly, the binders on the GN drives vent the GN particles down it’s lengh, so 0 forward thrust even if u point the GN drives to the back. that only works on the normal 00. so, the perfect grades arent exactly perfect. exept maybe red frame. example: strike doesnt have ANY striker packs, so just shield+beam rifle+2 armor schneider=lame. at least put aile with it, and not have it seperate wit skygrasper…T_T so lame bandai, so lame…
October 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Sigh, a huge let down. Luckily, I can’t afford it therefore it doesn’t really affect me. >.>;
Yep, I have to agree with you that the V looks plain but I like plain looking things. ^^; Still thinking of getting that end-year or early next year(if budget allows).
October 31, 2009 at 4:47 AM
ei z i agree…… they should have made an MG rezel ver ka instead of V gundam….. or an X gundam ver ka…….. V gundam is simply a turn off especially with the rx-78 ver 2.0 feel to it’s legs……… O.o
October 31, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I think most of you have a misled interpretation of the PG series.
The PG line is intended as a scale representation of various mechanical features that a particular design possesses. They’re supposed to just stand there, with a no touch sign.
If you look at the PG line up the odd ones out are the Strike and Red Frame, which are based around the same design and were advertised as having extreme mobility. The PG strike/Red Frame have barely anything other than that. The skeleton has little if any accommodation for the structural representation seen on previous PGs that the series is known for.
None of the other PG models are known for much else besides the amazing detail of their interior skeletons, pseudo-realistic compartmentalization, and light up heads. This in-depth hard military pseudo-science detail is what the the PG line was originally created for.
PG 00 was never advertised for having awesome mobility, and such we shouldn’t expect such. In fact the only promotion of it was the actual spinning drives and how Bandai was able to incorporate joint mechanisms into the model that looked like actual structural supports had this been a real object.
October 31, 2009 at 4:33 PM
I would like to see the opinion of Japanese builder/collectors about PG OO Raiser and MG V. They’re Bandai’s main market, the one that Bandai trying to milk cash out of them. As for overseas market reactions, Bandai could say “Screw it”.
Anyway, I love V Gundam simplicity. It’s like a sleek, stylish modern macbook compared to 90′s huge and blocky IBM laptop (in MS case, UC 0090 era MS like Nu and Unicorn).
Or like how DS lite to old DS…y’know what I mean.
October 31, 2009 at 4:35 PM
@Derringer.. If what you say is more or less right, then the forward/backward motion of the GN Drives + O-Raiser wings can be forgivable. But the waist and the too-small shoulder armors.. :(
It’s really great to have blogs such yours Z and Ngee Khiong’s that review future Gunpla releases and have fellow fanatics bash ‘em or love ‘em. MG Blue Frame for me then.. ^^
October 31, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I was pretty disappointed with the PG Red Frame for the liberties it took on the original BeeCraft design. Then a very handsome looking MG Blue Frame comes out that seems to trump the PG in many of the detail aspects. What seems to be the inability for the 00 Wing binders to rotate backwards is unbelievable. Either bandai did this on purpose or accident, but either way seems unthinkable for the price of this model. Yet, the MG00 will probably be superior in mobility to PG if it is ever released. I can only imagine that the PG line of late is meant to capitalize on those with money in their wallets who would rather not wait for the inevitable MG release of said mobile suit –shortcuts abound or not.
The MG Victory seems to have lost much of its charm in it’s MG incarnation. Sad because I really liked that suit.
October 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/4059361731_233e9f6518.jpg
Does that really look like a MG model? I have to wonder why the decals still aren’t on yet…
October 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Yeah, give it time Z. I’m sure there will be a marking sheet as big as the MG box for it.. ;)
November 1, 2009 at 5:33 AM
i still dont see anything good for MG V. gundams are supposed to have a “superior” feel to it. even rx-78 has that feel to it. even the rx-78 2.0 has that feel to it even though it has a funky design…… they should evoke a sense of supremacy themselves. XD
November 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Question here. What would be better PG 00 or PG RX-78 ?
November 1, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Wasnt the V Gundam a mass-production Gundam like the RX-79 Ground type gundam.
I would say the PG 00 but its up to you not me.
November 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM
@reptile
i think the PG 00 is the better choice
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November 2, 2009 at 1:21 AM
I’d say that’s just a misplacement of price tags than anything else. $48 for a PG 00 Raiser? That’s so worth it! (isn’t that the price for the 1/100?)
November 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
ya, it’s the price for some MGs actually… ya, probably a typo. we all wish it was that cheap.
November 3, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Huh. Not that I’d be scrambling to get a Perfect Grade anytime soon, but I certainly won’t go for the 00 Raiser now, at any rate. I can wait for the MG version.
As for the V Gundam, I’ll stick to my guns and wait for the Dash version. Or V2, whichever comes first.
November 3, 2009 at 7:50 AM
I look forward to the V gundam. Sure it’s colors are plain, but I like it’s design. It’s a nice clean slate to paint, or I could just cover it with all of my leftover decals from my other kits haha
November 4, 2009 at 7:21 AM
lets just wait for the full review in dalong for the PG 00 raiser..
November 8, 2009 at 2:48 AM
This is Interesting, but still I’m going to get that PG, It’s my first PG purchase, And I’m still hyped as all hell, the lack of articulation doesn’t spoil it for me since I’m going to pose it in a ‘under maintenance’ manner in a hangar setting with exposed inner frame and wires and missle pods scattered all over the place (God I love those missle pods). Though I see your point, it would be all kinds of awesome to be able to turn those binders, but those thing will be too heavy, even the 1/100 NG had issues with it (well at least MINE has), well I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
November 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Another question here :)
Around how much should PG 00 Raiser cost in US dollars ?
I’m seeing in some places it’s around $400.00 and then other places around $250.00. Please reply and Thank you :)
November 10, 2009 at 1:24 PM
should only be around $200-250, depending on where you get it plus shipping.
November 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Japan loves shit. Of course they’re gonna eat this up.
November 24, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Hey Z the PG 00 Raiser does have rotating raiser wings.
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/11/pg-00-raiser-assembly-progress-gn-drive.htmlhttp://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/11/pg-00-raiser-assembly-progress-gn-drive.html
it moves differently than the 144 but still does rotate.
November 24, 2009 at 11:46 PM
It can do the trans am raiser pose by rotating the 0 raiser binders evidentally, thats actually how they’re supposed to move anyways, if you doubt me go look really closely.
November 25, 2009 at 6:20 AM
The binders of PG 00 Raiser can rotate, confirmed, but not the GN Drive Mount racks
November 26, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I kinda felt the same way about the proportions at first, but after seeing the model in person it didnt bother me so much. That coupled with the clarification of the binders was enough to make me go out and get it. Box is still ridiculously big though.
November 27, 2009 at 1:20 AM
a new update about the 00 raiser wing binders have been posted in ngeekhiong.blogspot.com. it can really rotate but not as how the HG 00′s do it.
now, the major complain about the 00 raiser has been eradicated
December 4, 2009 at 12:16 PM
uhm. actually they have quite a lot of mobility
http://www.youtube.com/user/ApronPerson
December 4, 2009 at 11:49 PM
let this topic die, people ^^;. Look at the date of this post. I won’t change the post but I do stand corrected.
December 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM
take a look at ngeekhiong, they said that the binders for PG DO CAN move as freely as the 1/144 or 1/100, you lucky to have that PG at a discount price ^^
December 17, 2009 at 8:28 PM
uh, no ofence, but it’s better to let this die now, Flows…
January 12, 2010 at 2:55 AM
Well, I believed they have their reason for such design. By the way, if you are good, please design your own PG gundam.
January 12, 2010 at 3:54 AM
why do some people don’t bother to look at post dates before replying… *yawns*
January 12, 2010 at 4:18 AM
i bothered to look at the date and read the comments down the line to refresh my memory but, what i’m wondering about now is how it came to the conclusion that they could/would not move, especially on a PG, just because of a picture with crossed out arrows. [i don't think that's something bandai would have done, regardless of questionable decisions in the past]
yes, i’m too lazy to research because an answer from you is much easier. [well, if you choose to]
January 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Origin of misinterpretation: http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/10/pg-00-gundam-limitation.html
Adding to it: http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/10/pg-00-raiser-new-images_30.html
Remember… these posts were made when PG 00 Raiser’s news had just started surfacing and in this day of instant communication, there’s bound to be someone jumping to conclusions… All is solved and cleared up now and I did stated that I stand corrected (but I keep my opinion on its aesthetics) so it’s pretty idiotic of people coming all the way back here (from out of nowhere) to point out my “mistakes”.
January 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM
About the PG )) raiser, the wing binders CAN move. Look here
http://saint.waterscape.cc/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pg00_raiser_by_asayume.jpg
January 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM
OMG no offense but can you people can it? this post is OLD, and made when there was no confirmation whether or not the binders could move. Z has already been corrected and admited his mistake. you don’t have to keep on saying it again and again.
January 12, 2010 at 10:18 PM
No more commenting on this post…
To the next loser who comes to this post ready to say something along the lines of “BUT THEY DO MOVE!”:
Shut up the fuck up and read the last few comments.