I’ve made a few MG Deathscythe posts before and this one will be my last one (If I DO make another post about this MG, it’ll most likely be a WISP…). After some long pondering, I was just about to give in and order this model. I thought it would be nice to have it accompany the MG Wing Ver. Ka and I like the idea of eventually collecting the entire “GW Ver. Ka” line up (and also eventually collecting their upgrades like Deathscythe Hell, etc. to go with WZC). Also… I’m going to need something new to review eventually… >_>. However, I’ve noticed something that has been bugging me…
I am questioning the poseability of this model. Looking through all the promo shots and reviews out so far, I’ve yet to see a single dynamic pose out of this model. I’m sure if it is highly poseable, Bandai would’ve glorified its features by now. All I keep seeing is the same standing pose over and over again in all the material.
This is the most dynamic pose I’ve seen out of it; judging from the pose, range of motion seems at least standard mg fare… of maybe 2007. At least the waist looks like it can turn quite a bit. My main fear is obvious… a MG Deathscythe that can’t slice and dice with its Scythe D:
All the shots I’ve seen of it on a display base looked rather limp. Are the legs sagging or something? Another reason for me to doubt the articulation of this model is that it is pretty much a “Ver. Ka” (this design, the decals, the manual… it’s all there). The last and only kit out of Katoki with great articulation is the Sinanju >_>.
Good thing Dalong is starting on his right now so I’ll look forward to seeing what he can do with it. However… looking at the manual, assembly is VERY standard MG fare. As of now, it feels like Bandai release this solely “just for the sake of it”. Aesthetically speaking, color separation seems to be spot-on. Would’ve been nice if Bandai included a bunch of effect parts like they did with the original HG 1/100 Deathscythe… that would’ve been awesome!
If I see that it can slice and dice, then I will pick it up during the holiday and probably review it before the end of the year. We’ll see…
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September 21, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Well, you can get this to go with your Wing Ver.Ka, or do what I’m doing and wait for the MG Deathscythe Hell Custom that was announced for First-Q 2011.
September 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Bandai not giving the Deathscythe enough articulation to dice and slice… Now that’s a crime. It was a perfectly good beam scythe to slice, dice, and decapitate grunts with, as well as a Kyrios style shield (or should I say shield that Kyrios’ was styled after?) to slice/rip them in half… Finding out the thing as terrible articulation will like a slap in the face from Bandai… Well, the only thing we can do is hope for the best and wait for Dalong’s/someone else’s review of this thing…
September 21, 2010 at 4:04 PM
well to be fair there weren’t many dynamic poses for the tv version of deathsythe which this is based on, so naturally the reviewers and boxarts can’t rele find much posing material to work with since the Wing tv series lacked it. I mean take heavyarms for instance, the only pose it ever does is stand like it is waitning to crap while holding its doble gatlings lol.
September 21, 2010 at 4:17 PM
I dont think I like the face on this model. It’s much wider and fatter than anything that Bandai has put out in the MG line in a long time, RX-79G and Shining Gundam (Closed Face) come to mind. Shining gundam is that way arguably because the model shouldn’t have it’s face closed.
Know what I mean?
September 21, 2010 at 4:44 PM
If I go on the first picture (with the model, so second technically), hell yes! But I think it might be more of a perspective thing more than not.
September 21, 2010 at 7:32 PM
I meant more like the second to last where its just a front-on view of the face. No room for perspective errors there.
September 22, 2010 at 2:10 AM
The face does make it look like a chubby Gundam…
September 21, 2010 at 4:43 PM
I think the Deathscythe is a kit that would count more on bad-ass factor than articulation. i.e. The last picture is easily the best out of this bunch. For this version of the kit, I don’t think being able to bend the knee more than 90 degrees will deter almost anybody from buying this. Now if we talk about the Hell Custom ver. then we have a problem!
September 22, 2010 at 2:11 AM
But you can almost fear the thought that the D-Hell will just be this one but with wings… then you’ll have the same problem.
September 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM
from what ive seen in the manual,
the knee can achieve a full bend
there is a wrist joint, and the elbow could bend 180(i think?)
i dont think the ankles have good poseability though..(from the bulk of the armor)
though this guy would look fine on an action base i suppose..
September 22, 2010 at 2:12 AM
Oh yea… i forgot to mention that… the ankle armor does seem like it could get in the way even though it is a separate piece. It is a big hinger on the HG 1/100 model…
September 22, 2010 at 3:19 AM
ell the ankle is double jointed so it should be able to get almost the flat feet as Wing
September 21, 2010 at 5:04 PM
White-headed Deathscythe still gives me the nerves. :(
September 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM
It’s a pretty cool looking design indeed! It looks more elegant than the Hell IMO, like without the wings it’s simple and makes it seem smaller and therefore gives off a feel that it would probably outspeed the Hell. But I have yet to see how Hell would turn out.
September 21, 2010 at 6:37 PM
To be honest, the scythe doesn’t look any different from the 1/100 HG Deathscythe, which disappoints me. I mean I know its a simple scythe, but they could have at least made the beam look a little better.
September 22, 2010 at 2:13 AM
agreed about the beam?
September 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM
he should be fine with the new innerframe (like MG Wing TV), I suppose.
still can’t feel enough with him without his ver Hell.
I think I’ll just wait till Bandai eventually release Hell.
September 21, 2010 at 7:01 PM
The side skirts look quite obstrusive. Can’t help but think about Ver. Hell imminent release whenever i see this. Like the Crossbone Full Cloth, Ver. Hell is going to be so much kewler. Death himself always wear a cloak.
September 21, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Death without a cloak = A minion skeleton with a scythe.
September 21, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Well, I’m a fan of the DeathScythe and I can afford both this and the Hell Custom so I will definitely buy this MG even tough it has flaw(s).
September 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Well I’ve built the MG Wing which this is based off of. That thing has great articulation. For example, that hinge in the neck, the head can look up almost 90 degrees.. I am getting this guy soon. Hopefully it’ll look good without decals.
September 22, 2010 at 2:14 AM
I’m sure you’ve seen this model straight-built without decals plenty of times already xD
September 22, 2010 at 2:57 AM
Oh yeah. But the point is that the articulation should be fine.
September 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Common Problem with Ver Ka kits… Somehow the elbow and knee still lack articulation range to me. I’m not sure with the shoulders though.
September 21, 2010 at 10:46 PM
you could try to mont the wings of a HG1/100 scale Death Deathscythe Hell custom. to the MG thats comeing out.
September 21, 2010 at 11:30 PM
Hey Z, there’s something that I want to ask you privately. Is there an e-mail address that I can direct my question to? Thanks!
September 22, 2010 at 12:03 AM
yea… gunpla(dot)inochi(at)gmail(dot)com
September 21, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Hmmmah. I’ll be helping set up the display samples in New York. I’ll see what kind of pose I can pull off with it.
September 22, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Cool… Please take photos. Have fun ^^
September 22, 2010 at 4:21 AM
Hm. Maybe the attitude we should be taking is: “It sure as hell poses a lot better than the regular 1/100 kit!”
Honestly, from the look of the inner frame design, it may be able to do the swinging scythe poses – though we have to pull the waist ball joint out of the socket a bit.
But that’s nothing new! The MG Wing released months ago requires you to pull the ball joint out slightly to allow the waist to rotate to facilitate the transformation to Bird Mode. The MG Impulse (both versions) had good waist articulation, but required you to pull the waist joint slightly as well.
If this kit uses the same polycap set as the MG Wing did (PC-205), then the waist will not be a problem – the polycap that houses the waist joint is DEEP, and really tight, especially if the joint is topcoated, so there’s less chance of it falling off even if you pull it halfway out.
Another thing I liked about the pics on Ngee Khiong are the inner frame parts – they may have the same essential design, but the details are different. So I expect it to be as articulate as the previous Wing.
Look at this page from Dalong:
http://dalong.net/review/mg/m137/p/m137_m0009.JPG
That articulation is plenty good enough for me.
As for the color scheme, well, that’s nothing a little spraypainting won’t solve. I plan on painting mine the same color scheme as the TV series version.
September 22, 2010 at 5:38 AM
meh not gonna get him… D-HELL D-HELL
September 22, 2010 at 7:47 AM
Replying as I go, since it seems a little fun, despite the wastefulness of it all. (I’ll bold parts of your posts I’m replying to, Z.)
“I’ve made a few MG Deathscythe posts before and this one will be my last one (If I DO make another post about this MG, it’ll most likely be a WISP…).”
But… But I like these posts! Well, at least the next one would mean you had to pull one of those classic Z “I-Said-I-Won’t-Get-[InsertObjectHere]-But-I-Changed-My-Mind-and-Here’s-a-WISP” maneuvers. :)
Z: I’ll get you to like some KR first before that :P
“After some long pondering, I was just about to give in and order this model.”
Yeah, a big but is coming, but I wanted to pretend for a moment it wasn’t and you were finally considering it, let alone the entire “ver. Ka” collection, which would’ve been great. :)
However, I’ve noticed something that has been bugging me…
Yeah, the but just had to have come quick. :P
“I am questioning the poseability of this model. Looking through all the promo shots and reviews out so far, I’ve yet to see a single dynamic pose out of this model. I’m sure if it is highly poseable, Bandai would’ve glorified its features by now. All I keep seeing is the same standing pose over and over again in all the material.”
Well, how dynamic are your WG ver. Ka and WGZ ver. Ka models? My MSiA DS Hell (EW/Custom) doesn’t pose that great. How does your 1/100 DSH pose, again? Yeah, it would be great that–outside of Extended MSiA and Robot Damashii figures–that Katoki’s MS designs translate into models and figures that both look great and pose great, but usually there comes a cost. Is it that way in general, too? *shrug*
Z: The Wings work fine in the air…. though poses funny on the ground. So I can’t really translate that into Deathscythe’s motion. For a 10 year old kit, my 1/100 DSH poses pretty well and it was the best among the EW line-up!
“This is the most dynamic pose I’ve seen out of it; judging from the pose, range of motion seems at least standard mg fare… of maybe 2007. At least the waist looks like it can turn quite a bit. My main fear is obvious… a MG Deathscythe that can’t slice and dice with its Scythe D:”
The MG White Doll–yes, while an exception amongst the MG line as a whole, as it is the 100th–is still a 2007 model and it poses fine, as does the Zaku II 2.0 model, as does MGs of previous years like the RX-78 ver. OYW. And it’s being beyond obvious to state you have pre-’07 Gunpla like MG Wing ver. Ka and MG WGZ, which are 2004 models. Before real life stuff halted my Gunpla hobby before I could build a measly 1/144-scaled Kapool, I had dozens of MSiA figures and 1/144 models (HG or otherwise) with average articulation (except for my HGUC Zaku I and EMSiA figures… And now my RD). I’m fine with that, and I make the most with it.
Z: I wasn’t sure how far to go back so I just threw a year out xD. 2004-2005 would seem to be what I want to get that.
Besides, even with models containing great articulation, aren’t part of the Gunpla community yelling at people like you and I (you who take extensive photoshoots for your reviews, I for my little enjoyment) to stop extensively posing with our Gunpla and figures? I still do, even after the cost of an HGUC GP02a’s right arm and an HGUC RX-178′s left foot (and some problems with my RD Turn A; though I think that was just because I kept it at a more “dynamic” pose for quite a while because I wanted to take a picture and I couldn’t find batteries for my camera)..
No one yelled at me yet ^^;
“All the shots I’ve seen of it on a display base looked rather limp. Are the legs sagging or something? Another reason for me to doubt the articulation of this model is that it is pretty much a “Ver. Ka” (this design, the decals, the manual… it’s all there). The last and only kit out of Katoki with great articulation is the Sinanju >_>.”
And that model gave you hell, didn’t it? You almost had quit Gunpla because of it! As far as legs sagging, that’s part of what’s wrong with my RD already (though my fault), and at least half my MSiAs (probably my fault). Maybe a good model keeps that from happening after a while, and although I’ve heard stuff such as falling skirt armor (as if it was my GFF Wing with it’s rear-left skirt armor problem), I haven’t heard anything about sagging legs.
Z: Sinanju itself never made me want to quit… *I* want to quit “active” gunpla-ing way before building. And I still do and still working on it. Just enjoying while I go at it. haha
Good thing Dalong is starting on his right now so I’ll look forward to seeing what he can do with it.
I need to read a little more thuroughly to the point of not skipping things while reading a bit fast, since when I got on there to look at a couple of ’07 MGs, I skipped past that. I also shouldn’t do another read-a-little-then-reply message after this, since it just seems a little wasteful.
However… looking at the manual, assembly is VERY standard MG fare. As of now, it feels like Bandai release this solely “just for the sake of it”.
I wouldn’t say they did so in a willy nilly, “Eh…” deal. Otherwise, I’m sure we’d only still have discontinued B-Club conversion parts for the EW models to get Katoki’s rendition of Deathscythe in model form (which would lack a beam for the buster shield), or for the others (even though Katoki’s Wing got a GFF and MG not so long after). I’m sure this MG (and the other upcoming ones) are part of promoting the GW “Glory of the Defeated” Manga. The first chapter of the post-EW novel (“Frozen Teardrop”) is already out, and again, I thought we were going to see models based on that novel… We still might.
Oh, FT is post-EW? That’s awesome… I can’t imagine there be any gundams in it xD.
>b> Aesthetically speaking, color separation seems to be spot-on. Would’ve been nice if Bandai included a bunch of effect parts like they did with the original HG 1/100 Deathscythe… that would’ve been awesome!
Some of the 1/100 GW models had effect parts that seem odd and a waste of production compared to, say, the 1/200 HCM-Pro Wing figures. Like the green parts for WG and WGZ’s wings… Ever saw something that cheesy in the anime? In contrast, HCM-Pro Wing’s extra effect part (and HCM-Pro DS’s) were bigger beam blade parts that reflect what was done in the anime.
Yea, I was mainly referring to a bigger version of the beams. Maybe I can get the hg 1/100 parts to fit…
If I see that it can slice and dice, then I will pick it up during the holiday and probably review it before the end of the year. We’ll see…
Again, I’m already sure it can slice and dice better than my MSiA DSH (or my MSIA Okawara DS, for that matter)…
September 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM
I replied to you… see if you can spot it xD
September 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Heheheh… When I read that and skimmed through upwards (so I can start over; I don’t read backwards. :P ), my chuckle turned into such giddyness I decided to continue the uselessness factor by reading your response on my Wii (but I don’t have a keyboard, so to hell with replying on it).
But maybe you should’ve fixed my screw-up on bolding your “bigger beam pieces” comment I was replying to, though. :P
I’m sure they’re going to work in MSs and perhaps even Gundams in Frozen Teardrop, as I’m sure quite a few fans have in their own little post-EW fanfiction (I only read one that was incomplete, so don’t quote me on it). The beginning of it isn’t so exciting, though. Translation here:
http://corpus-yaoi.livejournal.com/21193.html
http://corpus-yaoi.livejournal.com/22596.html
…Maybe it’ll change in time, but GW seems to be more soap-opery of the Gundam franchise than the typical teenage-angsty ones. I could be wrong on that, but tying everything together and making kids seem more like adults at young ages, etc. At least the GW anime wasn’t half-bad and the MS designs were pretty good.
I’ll concede getting the Sinanju and/or (active) Gunpla-quitting story, though I meant “yelling” was in general. Not that I don’t also do the following, but some model-builders (pros or otherwise) on various forums (well, okay, maybe one I just usually lurk on) comment on how it’s bad to pose your Gundam figures or Gunpla for this, that, and the other reason. I ignore it because, well, where’s the fun in that? I still occasionally pose my GFF Wing, and it’s basically in the same pose as the Wing in the MG Deathscythe cover.
I guess I can’t convince you to get an MG DS (ver. EW*), so I’ll settle for Dalong’s review (or anyone else’s) until my life turns around to the point of me feeling comfortable about continuing a Gunpla hobby and getting more. But it would be great to see a review (and following fight) by you…
…But I’ll settle for the soon-to-come post on the RD-Turn-A-And-Separate-MB-Accessory-Despite-Preferring-Not-To-Get-Any-More-RDs review. I’m sure it’ll come when I become hooked on watching Lady Kamen Rider Blah V in 2014. :)
*Yes, Katoki designed it, people generally unofficially use “ver. Ka” for his redesigns, and technically this DS wasn’t in the OVA/Movie, but if the appearance of it in Newtype mag around that time, the grouping of it and the others in EW-related pics, this MG, and the upcoming “Glory of the Defeated” manga is of any indication, I think it was intended to be, and will be in the upcoming manga. For any of you that hasn’t actually done it (though I wouldn’t know why) think of EW as Katoki’s Gundam Wing, where his Gundam designs replace Okawara’s (which makes for consistency, given the origin of the MSs in the AC universe).
September 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM
A yaoi site… how fitting to find GW stuff there xD. I’ll save the links and read it later when I am free.
Though it’s been so long, I hardly remember anything about Gundam Wing. Probably be nice to at least rewatch EW before catching up on the new GW stuff…